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[pzdm]

"Ping, Ping, Ping, Ping...."

Hunters are hunting

I started a work on picture inspirated by book of Lothar Gunter Buchheim - Das Boot

Model is based on my volumetric model created in 3D-Coat and retopo

Sweather has been done in C4D (SPD+Hair, own textures)

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1064&stc=1&d=1250702642

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1065&stc=1&d=1250702700

Crits and suggestions are welcome

Lightning, I suppose it is a finally lightning look

What will be next, a cap, uniform, Hairs and Hair, eyes etc...

THX P

[Rich_Art]

wow looks awesome Pavel. I really like the Sweater shader. The head is a great model as well.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[pzdm]

wow looks awesome Pavel. I really like the Sweater shader. The head is a great model as well.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

hehe
:001_tt1:

[Timmer]

6x Awsome! I love it!

GrtZ, Tim

[Nebu]

The head looks cool, but that sweater is just amazing!

Cheers,

Nebu

[sfBlackfox]

Judges say: 10 10 10 :)

[pzdm]

Hello guys

THX a lot for your words! I´m glad you like it...

Here is a retypo and my own voxel head model what I did in 3DC

http://www.3dsoftware.cz/upload/images_forum/47060.jpg

[Morris]

WOW...this is truely amazing :drool:

Greetz,
Morris

[pzdm]

here is a little model update

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1126&stc=1&d=1251150534

[pzdm]

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1127&stc=1&d=1251150748

[Rich_Art]

Cool model and dito modelling.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[pzdm]

1) I did really simple basic mesh (of top cap part) in C4D

2) I have imported it to 3DCoat as a volumetric object

3) I did a shape (3DC)

4) I did a retypo

5) export retypo back to C4D

6) adjusted in C4D - voila, mesh is finished

P

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1128&stc=1&d=1251189832

[Rich_Art]

When have some money again, I'll buy 3DC. :)

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[Marijn]

Very nice stuff, I look forward to the next update!

[pzdm]

here is a current state
http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1132&stc=1&d=1251198958

[Rich_Art]

Very cool Pavel........

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[pzdm]

a cap - final

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1134&stc=1&d=1251207326

[Marijn]

Impressive! I look forward to the textured version.

[pzdm]

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1136&stc=1&d=1251212487

[Rich_Art]

very coolllllllll........

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[Timmer]

Awsome work man, really awsome!

GrtZ, Tim

[pzdm]

I started a work on textures and materials

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1150&stc=1&d=1251377294

[Timmer]

I love it!
Can't wait to see more! Keep it up!

GrtZ, Tim

[Rich_Art]

Yeah 2nd that..

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[pzdm]

here is a little update

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1157&stc=1&d=1251446674

[olbo]

Very nice indeed!

[Rich_Art]

Great material.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[pzdm]

here is a little update

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1247&stc=1&d=1252431641

Cheers P

PS: I´m still looking for suitable sample of the bottom part. This is (in this state) a shader only

[[bo]]

Your fabric textures are amazing!
And also fantastic modeling ! :001_smile:

[Rich_Art]

amazing job Pavel.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[freuteken]

wow the textures are awesome.
it's fits exactly on your model.

[Marijn]

Amazing, the materials look perfect... How many hours have you spent on this so far?

[pzdm]

Amazing, the materials look perfect... How many hours have you spent on this so far?

Hello Marijn
I´m really glad you like it becouse you and some other guys (Alberto Blasi, Mnu, Per...) are my gurus :-)

Hard to say, becouse I spent a lot of time by searching of suitable texture. And I was not succefull (as I wrote before, I´m still looking for texture for bottom part - there is a shdaer only).

Modeling task was pretty easy, It took cca 2-3 hours (base mesh - 3DC and back). Some took fine touching (of model), cca 2 hours. I did some other models as well, a flag is modeled just now for example.

Time eaters were materials - a flag - shaders, bottom parts - shaders, gold studs (shaders + textures) etc... Really I don´t know a whole time. I worked on that after one week in this update for example, cca 4 hours. Up to 2,5 hours I tried to find some texture :-(

P

[MacObsession]

very nice!! 100% real

[Marijn]

Hello Marijn
I´m really glad you like it becouse you and some other guys (Alberto Blasi, Mnu, Per...) are my gurus :-)

Hard to say, becouse I spent a lot of time by searching of suitable texture. And I was not succefull (as I wrote before, I´m still looking for texture for bottom part - there is a shdaer only).

Modeling task was pretty easy, It took cca 2-3 hours (base mesh - 3DC and back). Some took fine touching (of model), cca 2 hours. I did some other models as well, a flag is modeled just now for example.

Time eaters were materials - a flag - shaders, bottom parts - shaders, gold studs (shaders + textures) etc... Really I don´t know a whole time. I worked on that after one week in this update for example, cca 4 hours. Up to 2,5 hours I tried to find some texture :-(

PI think that´s a bit too much honor for me, but thanks! I can imagine it took some time to find the textures, they look stunning. Anyway, I really look forward to the next WIP, keep it up.

[pzdm]

Here is a little head update, sugestions and crits - fire on me!

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1264&stc=1&d=1252704595

P

[Marijn]

Very nice work! On thing I noticed is the spot above the eyebrow - there seems to be a bit of skin "popping out" where I would expect it to move towards the skull. But maybe there's a reason for this (or it's because of the perspective).

[Rich_Art]

He could use a bit of ironing on his head.. hahahaha.
Just kidding. Great modelling Pavel.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[sfBlackfox]

Really looking good :) Maybe if you make the ears a bit larger he could be a little better. We people guess age by looking at the eyes in relationship to the nose and ears. Nose and ears keep on growing with age, the eyes don't. In other words if you make that ear slightly larger, he'll look older :)

[PixelPit]

Amazing shaders, pzdm. A-M-A-Z-I-N-G.
My only crit would be towards the eyes of your character. I think they are to elliptical, to far apart and "pop out" a little to much... a pic in full front perspective would be nice.
Besides that, you´re doing a wonderful job and it will be nice to follow your progress.

Thanks a lot for your workflow/pipeline tutorial video over at the 3dc forum - very helpful :)

[pzdm]

Really looking good :) Maybe if you make the ears a bit larger he could be a little better. We people guess age by looking at the eyes in relationship to the nose and ears. Nose and ears keep on growing with age, the eyes don't. In other words if you make that ear slightly larger, he'll look older :)

He is not so old, take him as a pretty young guy cca 22 years old who is 4 months in his iron cofin on open seas with other 50 guys. He must look pretty very very tired, but he is not so old.

THX, P

[pzdm]

Very nice work! On thing I noticed is the spot above the eyebrow - there seems to be a bit of skin "popping out" where I would expect it to move towards the skull. But maybe there's a reason for this (or it's because of the perspective).

Do you mean this detail?

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1266&stc=1&d=1252745686

P

[pzdm]

here is a wireframe

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1267&stc=1&d=1252746094

[Marijn]

I mean this one, it just looks a bit odd to me. Nice wire!

[Rich_Art]

Nice and clean wire...

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[Mazur]

Good start. Take care about the mainshape of the skull.
The eyes are popping out too much. The jaw looks too low without that strong muscle to chew. Some strange wrinkles at the cheekbone.
Keep going, I like the textures, good work!

[pzdm]

ok guys

thx a lot, here is a little update

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1275&stc=1&d=1252836911

[pzdm]

I use 3DC for eyes position updating, yeah, wrinkle is not good just now, but posision itself looks better

P

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1276&stc=1&d=1252838538

[Timmer]

Very nice update pzdm, they look much better now indeed > great progress!

GrtZ, Tim :)

[pzdm]

Hi folk

here is a little update again...

what´s new:

nose, mouths corners

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1287&stc=1&d=1253028893

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1286&stc=1&d=1253028893

[Rich_Art]

Nice update Pavel..

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[Marijn]

He looks healthier now, so if that's what you're going for, nice work ;) Also, I think this version is more realistic than the previous one.

[pzdm]

He looks healthier now, so if that's what you're going for, nice work ;) Also, I think this version is more realistic than the previous one.

THX Marijn

eyes are different a bit again...

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1296&stc=1&d=1253077712

and here is a complex, I must do an dress and UV is not good

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1297&stc=1&d=1253077712

[Timmer]

This is just awsome, i love the textures!
Top Notch!

GrtZ, Tim

[MacObsession]

very nice!

[Rjsmal]

Really nice job on the hat texture looks awesome the sweaters texture also looks nice man.

Peace

[sfBlackfox]

really good job! :)


Are you going to use hair on him?

[pzdm]

really good job! :)


Are you going to use hair on him?


Yeah, I have prepared hair already

but, here is a new little minor update of mouth and eyes - bottom part...

I hope it is a last :-)

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1309&stc=1&d=1253184144

[Tom]

you know what intriges me? from the front he looks evil but from the side he looks kinda peaceful and dedicated. So i still don't know what kind of person he'll be, a villian or a hero ;)

[Rich_Art]

Very nice and clean mesh Pavel...

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[pzdm]

Very nice and clean mesh Pavel...

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

THX René, and now - go back to your work!

P

[Rich_Art]

Hahaha you've got me..:scared:


Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[pzdm]

it is my lightning idea

an emergency lightning....

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1382&stc=1&d=1253728663

P

[kingcoma]

Sweet mother of god, that sweater and cap look SU-PER! :scared:

Hats of for that! Face looks also very very good, although the face is a bit sharp (really hard lines at the nose and nostrils) But I think it'll work out with final textures and lighting..

Nevertheless, great work! I'll be keeping an eye on this thread!

[Rich_Art]

2nd that.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[Timmer]

3th that, this is incredible work man!

GrtZ, Tim

[Dutch_Stylez]

Amazing texturing work... good luck finishing this one.
I def will be keeping my eye on this thread...

Greetz Dutch

[[bo]]

Got a feeling that this piece is gonna end up in a magazine somewhere...

[Marijn]

Very impressive indeed!

@bo: Pavel also writes for a CG magazine, so it shoud be easy to get it in :lol:

[pzdm]

some details

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1410&stc=1&d=1253999485

[pzdm]

3DC for details

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1411&stc=1&d=1253999675

[Mazur]

Dang@#, you did a lot of work texturing the guy. It looks real nice!
But why the F$#@ I still see those lazy shapes, ggrrrr!
(Btw, I'm not a bad guy, just try to push you)
Before I took some time to tell you something about the skull and the eyes. No response, ok you are the master.
Now I see the ears and the upperlip, why? Just some clicks at Google will show you the right way.
Here is an ear, I can send you the 3d-file if you can use it. Take a mirror or put your finger in your ear to feel how the shape has to go. Not to much because you do not hear things to help you ;-)
Keep going to the final, cheers!

[Tom]

well i don't see what's wrong with the ear, according to me it looks pretty fine

[Rich_Art]

Same for me. What is wrong with the ear?

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[MacObsession]

gewoon super bangelijk!

[pzdm]

Dang@#, you did a lot of work texturing the guy. It looks real nice!
But why the F$#@ I still see those lazy shapes, ggrrrr!
(Btw, I'm not a bad guy, just try to push you)
Before I took some time to tell you something about the skull and the eyes. No response, ok you are the master.
Now I see the ears and the upperlip, why? Just some clicks at Google will show you the right way.
Here is an ear, I can send you the 3d-file if you can use it. Take a mirror or put your finger in your ear to feel how the shape has to go. Not to much because you do not hear things to help you ;-)
Keep going to the final, cheers!


Hello Mazur

we say, in my country, "stay in quiet"....

I will be back in few hours and I will write a response for you.

But first. I teach on school of art, my students have wide expirience with painting and sculpting and I have few friends between them. I used one of them for anatomy crits, and he does not problem with ears.

P

[Mazur]

(Btw, I'm not a bad guy, just try to push you)
I live in another country and I see what I see. I am not a student so I am wrong.
It's a great job how the texturing was done so I should like to see the head perfect too.

[pzdm]

(Btw, I'm not a bad guy, just try to push you)
I live in another country and I see what I see. I am not a student so I am wrong.
It's a great job how the texturing was done so I should like to see the head perfect too.

1) Ahhh, you are really cool artist, but pretty hot head :-) I see.

2) Again, I'm not an expert, thus I ask always somebody who has better expirience in different tasks. I'm not an artist, I'm a simple editor only....

Go back to this thread and you see I improved almost evrything what users critised. Yeah, I did not see wat you said, I did not upgraded it...

If I take an ear. You have a right in cca 60% (for me), your example what you have posted before is a bit "to blurred" for me. But some details could be better. I will check them again.

Ok, back to my wife and kid. I hope I will find some hour for a modeling this week.

Good night boys (and girls)

Pavel pzdm Zoch, Hostoun at Prague, CZ

[Tom]

(Btw, I'm not a bad guy, just try to push you)
I live in another country and I see what I see. I am not a student so I am wrong.
It's a great job how the texturing was done so I should like to see the head perfect too.

You do realise not a single ear is the same as an other, right?

When i saw the ear i'd say it could use an earlob, which is something you didn't point out while you see something else, which already proves my point about ears.

It's pretty much like breats :-p (i picked htat part because everyone get's the point)
there are big ones tight ones small ones big nipple small nipples oversized ones brown ones white ones , the oens ya see the vains and so on and on and on, if ya want i can go for pictures on google to illustrate it :-p

I do agree with the line arround the mouth, but i think it does add up to the volume of the face as well so i'm not sure whether he should fix it or not i kinda like the head as it is right now. But if i would be looking in the mirror and see that head i'd shoot myself ;)

[pzdm]

(Btw, I'm not a bad guy, just try to push you)
I live in another country and I see what I see. I am not a student so I am wrong.
It's a great job how the texturing was done so I should like to see the head perfect too.

I changed base mesh (without details)

better?

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1428&stc=1&d=1254172810

[pzdm]

base colors and little update (Mazur) around mouth... I checked eye, I have some refernecies with same "line", I leave it...

[pzdm]

base colors and little update (Mazur) around mouth... I checked eye, I have some refernecies with same "line", I leave it...

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1450&stc=1&d=1254480715

[Rich_Art]

I could not do it better. :)

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[Mazur]

base colors and little update (Mazur) around mouth... I checked eye, I have some refernecies with same "line", I leave it...

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1450&stc=1&d=1254480715

First of all. It seems to be we want the same, a nice image. If you and others like it the way it is, no problems.
I just see mistakes in a wip in wich you put a lot of energy.
Unfortunately this is not understood by people calling me 'really cool artist, hot head' joined with other funny reactions. I am not an artist, but a beginner like all artists should be. Call me an observer or a worker.
You started your wip full of flair and knowledge with the words 'sugestions and crits - fire on me!', wich I did as the only one :-@ Please forgive me not joining the oooh's and aaah's. It's nothing personal with you or the others.

But for now, let's focus on the eyes only.
The upper eyelid never make a wrinkle like that in the outer corner. This wrinkle is made by the hanging skin above it.
The part where the upper- and lower eyelid meets in the outer corner, is not so sharp (take the mirror)
Above the eye, it looks like a swollen eye after a fighting. Normal this skin hangs down under the eybrow. There are not strong muscles under it, just some fat. Maybe when people are real fat, this part will pop out a bit. But gently from the skullbone above the eye (eyebrow).

Later I will ask you how you did it and I will learn.

[pzdm]

First of all. It seems to be we want the same, a nice image. If you and others like it the way it is, no problems.
I just see mistakes in a wip in wich you put a lot of energy.
Unfortunately this is not understood by people calling me 'really cool artist, hot head' joined with other funny reactions. I am not an artist, but a beginner like all artists should be. Call me an observer or a worker.
You started your wip full of flair and knowledge with the words 'sugestions and crits - fire on me!', wich I did as the only one :-@ Please forgive me not joining the oooh's and aaah's. It's nothing personal with you or the others.

But for now, let's focus on the eyes only.
The upper eyelid never make a wrinkle like that in the outer corner. This wrinkle is made by the hanging skin above it.
The part where the upper- and lower eyelid meets in the outer corner, is not so sharp (take the mirror)
Above the eye, it looks like a swollen eye after a fighting. Normal this skin hangs down under the eybrow. There are not strong muscles under it, just some fat. Maybe when people are real fat, this part will pop out a bit. But gently from the skullbone above the eye (eyebrow).

Later I will ask you how you did it and I will learn.

haha....

if I see your responses nd work it looks you really understand your work :-) but it looks ("it looks" it does not mean you must be) you are really hot head. Nothning against you, somebody is "cold and slow" others are different.

I asked René if are you angry to me, or what's that. He said me it is your way. Your standard way.

Yeah, here is a limitation in my EN skill maybe. It could be, of course.

About an eye...

yeah, you are right. I have it same. I will post some different examples (from PC, I don't have them on macbook)... But you have right I can adjust this detail a bit.

Peace, P

[Dutch_Stylez]

I think it already looks stunning :)

are you using normal or displacement maps?
Did you use sculpting software???

Keep em comin...

Greetz Dutch

[pzdm]

I think it already looks stunning :)

are you using normal or displacement maps?
Did you use sculpting software???

Keep em comin...

Greetz Dutch

THX

I use 3DCoat


Mazur

It looks I will must do all details again :-(

Mazur: I reworked an eye area

http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1462&stc=1&d=1254753310

[pzdm]

I think it already looks stunning :)

are you using normal or displacement maps?
Did you use sculpting software???

Keep em comin...

Greetz Dutch

I use 3DC

Mazur: do you mean like this?


http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1463&stc=1&d=1254754412